AbeBooks.com: Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam (9780547518268) by Sorley, Lewis and a great selection of similar New, Used and Collectible Books available now at great prices. A biography of Vietnam general William Westmoreland by the author of A BETTER WAR. New York: Houghton Mifflin Harcourt Publishing Company, 2011. "Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam" is a biography that I resisted reading for about a year or so. His executive ability, conscientiousness, high ideals, good judgment and common sense, and his fearless determination—just glance at that chin!—have well fitted him for the position he has held as leader of our class, and as First Captain of the Corps.”, In Westmoreland’s class was Benjamin O. Davis Jr., a black who would later become a high-ranking general officer. If his mother is to be believed, Westmoreland somehow escaped punishment for yet another parade-related transgression. Westmoreland was the nation's number one Vietnam vet whose wife, Kitsy, lost a brother killed in the war, LTC Frederick Van Deusen. “Westmoreland is a great book, a classic by an author who knows his subject well and tells the story without hesitation.” — General Donn A. Starry, U.S. Army (ret. Eric Tegler Jerry Warner, a teenager when he first met Westmoreland, for whom his father worked, suggested an explanation. Eric Tegler Everyone in the Corps knows who he is, how he looks, what he does. Biographies of Julius Caesar, Frederick the Great, and Napoleon have long enticed audiences with explora-tions of how great captains won or lost battles . His was without any question a far more availing approach then Westmoreland’s ‘head-down, bang, bang, bang’ approach against the enemy’s main forces out in the jungle. In one of these letters his father unhelpfully observed: “English seems to be your weakest spot. This book is an intereting read. Until we understand Gen. William Westmoreland, we will never know what went wrong in the Vietnam War. Scouting was still a pretty new thing, having been established in England just twenty-one years earlier, and this was just the third World Jamboree. The M1 rifle weighs about 11 pounds loaded and would stand almost to the shoulder of a five foot Vietnamese. Westmoreland didn’t want to talk to him about it, as Palmer said later. An aviator's life, luck and guts - in Vietnam and beyond. William Westmoreland became the overall commander in Vietnam and he had a job to do, and he did the job to the best of his ability. This is not the story of how America became embroiled in a conflict in a small country half-way around the globe, nor of why our armed forces remained there so long after the futility of our efforts became obvious to many. Reviewed in the United States on October 4, 2019. An authoritative study offering tragic lessons crucial for the future of American leadership, Westmoreland is essential reading. Unless and until we understand William Childs Westmoreland, we will never fully understand what happened to us in Vietnam, or why. He did little or nothing for them. The claims made by Westmoreland that he cared about the South Vietnamese forces and did everything he could to improve them are simply without substance. Title. And Westmoreland, of course, is "the general who lost Vietnam." But the cases against both commanders are not quite as black and white as many people would like to believe. Unless and until we understand Gene. In this four-part interview with DMN writer Eric Tegler, Sorley discusses Westmoreland’s tenure as Army Chief of Staff, his conduct of the war in Vietnam, how he came to that position and why he stayed in command for so long. There was a problem loading your book clubs. His father would turn his head away and let his son peck him on the cheek.” Even so, he was clearly the favorite. Over 92 percent of the class served to retirement (or died while on active duty), a remarkable example of duty performed. Much of what is taught in JPME for officers across all services is highlighted here. Eric Tegler is a writer/broadcaster from Severna Park, Md. In an inspiring storytelling, witness the life and faith of Jim Aldredge— the man who overcame poverty and a baseball accident that cost him one eye. “Be sure and send me your marks every week because I have a little book in which I keep them. Gen. Palmer, Westmoreland’s classmate and deputy commanding general of U.S. Army, Vietnam, went to Westmoreland and said he had some real concerns about how the war was going. p. cm. Although I am a huge fan of Robert McNamara I wanted to get alternative views on what really happened in Vietnam. In the USA many Americans are "Vietnam war outcome deniers" It can be difficult to get some Americans to say "We lost the Vietnam war." . In this four-part interview with DMN writer Eric Tegler, Sorley discusses Westmoreland’s tenure as Army Chief of Staff, how he became commander of U.S. forces in Vietnam, his conduct of the war, and why he remained in command for so long. After working my way through the book, I can concur. Shipping cost, delivery date, and order total (including tax) shown at checkout. By Eric Tegler - November 15, 2011. Yes, Westmoreland was the general who lost Vietnam. | 97 alternative but to focus his attention and resources on conventional methods of warfare. How did he stay in command despite his obvious shortcomings? Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam Lewis Sorley, Mark Twain's Languages: Discourse, Dialogue, And Linguistic Variety David R. Sewell, Family Living: Hooray For Cookouts (Leisure Arts #75349) Leisure Arts, The Channel Steven Ehrlick Previous page of related Sponsored Products. Modest, generous, tolerant, and possessing a good sense of humor, Westy has made many friends. Lewis Sorley: I served 20 years as an armor officer and retired as a lieutenant colonel. The few critiques actually cited – covert enemy forces, impermeable terrain, village insecurity, and supposedly a detached leadership style – against Gen. Westmoreland hardly explain why he failed to advance U.S. objectives during the Vietnam War . Westmoreland, "Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam," is like watching a slow-motion replay of an oncoming train wreck. You would launch immediately into your case and, as soon as it was finished, would stand up and, with no parting words, march back out the door. 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Westmoreland to change the way he was running the war in accordance with the PROVN Study or to get him replaced. eBay item number: 124824505794. The big plan played a role in that fiasco, but he wasn’t alone. This item: Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam. E840.5.W4S67 2011 959.70434092—dc22 [B] 2011016067 Book design by . How did he get there, why did he fail, and how did he last so long? Requesting more troops and the Tet Offensive was turning point for him and he was eventually replaced. Westmoreland — Sorley, Lewis, 1934- — "Unless and until we understand General William Westmoreland, we will never understand what went wrong in Vietnam. Then he was chosen to lead the war effort in Vietnam for four crucial years. "A terrific book, lively and brisk . What it reveals is a man devoted to his profession, and to his own rise in that profession, single-minded in his determination to accomplish the mission as he understands it, skillful in cultivating those who could be helpful to him, faithful in his marriage and loyal to his family, often perceptive in his choice of key associates, limited in his understanding of complex situations, entirely dependent on conventional solutions, and willing to shade or misremember or deny the record when his perceived interests were at risk. “I have been a person who has sought responsibility,” he told an interviewer. He created a major study known as PROVN [Program for the Pacification and Long-Term Development of Vietnam] which concluded that the Westmoreland approach was not working and could not work, and the reason it could not was that it was ignoring the war in the villages. 395 pp., $30. I think those senior people lacked the experience and, I would say, the confidence to replace Westmoreland before it became so painfully obvious that it had to be done. A: Fueled by ambition, Westmoreland drove himself relentlessly. This is an important book, extensively researched and argued with . It’s a peculiar thing that you can gain or lose so rapidly the affection of your people.” Van Autreve recalled an occasion when Westmoreland as Army Chief of Staff had come to address a gathering of senior noncommissioned officers at Fort McNair in Washington. Those who have long been Westmoreland admirers and supporters may be offended by an account that, as they will view it, tarnishes his reputation. ), Commander, Army Training and Doctrine Command (1977-1981) Is it possible that the riddle of America's military failure in Vietnam has a one-word, one-man answer? It won't float to the top as a major endeavor." Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 416 pp., $30.00 First I have to comment that mention is made in this book, the names of some officers I have read about concerning the World War II Battle of the Bulge. A good biography of General Westmoreland, and how he conducted war in Vietnam. The first major synthesis of the war since 2001, drawing upon a host of newly declassified documents, presidential tapes, and overlooked foreign sources to give the most comprehensive look to date of the war that still haunts America. Despite a career building upon his experience as an Eagle Scout at 15, First Captain of his West Point class, combat commander in World War II and Korea, command of the 101st Airborne Division, and a return to West Point as Superintendent, Westmoreland proved woefully inadequate as the man in charge of America’s war in Vietnam and, later, of the U.S. Army. There was an error retrieving your Wish Lists. During the war Gen. Harold K. Johnson, who was Chief of Staff of the Army for the same four years Westmoreland commanded in Vietnam, was terribly distressed with Westmoreland’s approach to the war. I spent four months going through them. Nearly two decades after the end of the war that had consumed him then and later, Westmoreland offered a considered but surprising judgment: "In the scope of history, Vietnam is not going to be a big deal. “I think he’s mellowed some with age, but he gave Margaret a hard time when she was growing up.” For her part, Margaret affirmed that observation: “My brother was my father’s life. This item can be returned in its original condition for a full refund or replacement within 30 days of receipt. Sold by Gem Book and ships from Amazon Fulfillment. Please try again. . Stunning in its insight, On Strategy is required reading not just for everyone who is interested in the Vietnam War, but for anyone who is concerned about the place of the United States on the world stage and how America can, and more ... I love reading about 1960's American politics (God knows why because I am a Brit) but clearly Vietnam was dominant. Eric Tegler: Did Westmoreland ever really embrace the ideas of strengthening the Vietnamese army and “Vietnamization” (building/strengthening Vietnamese civil society and institutions) as the PROVN Study recommended? They limped through his tenure with basically cast-off American World War II weapons. Meanwhile the Exec is looking through a peephole in the door and, when you stand up, he sends in the next man, who you’d pass on your way out. Up to the level of division commander, Westmoreland was well respected by the Army’s senior commanders and by his own troops. Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam - Ebook written by Lewis Sorley. He said himself that he was determined to speak in every one of the 50 states and that he considered that his primary duty. General Kinnard was at Bastogne and advised General McCallough to answer "nuts" to the German demand that he surrender. He did not see the episode himself, he said, since he had been marching in one of the rear ranks, “but later everyone talked about it.”  Despite such episodes, Westmoreland proved himself a fitting First Captain: dutiful, dedicated, capable if not brilliant, ambitious if not especially social, a father’s pride, a model cadet leader. S. tudying the individual commander's role in war has been a staple of military history since Homer's epic the . According to a friend who also attended these services, Dr. W.H.K. Now we’re all ground pounders and dirt slingers. But after his four years in command of U.S. forces in Vietnam he was succeeded by Gen. Creighton Abrams, his exact contemporary, his West Point classmate who also served in World War II in Europe and during the final stages of the Korean War, but who brought to his command of U.S. forces in Vietnam a radically different outlook on the nature of the war. Westmoreland was on a treadmill. In Losing Vietnam, Major Hunt details the catastrophic effects of reduced funding and of conducting "wars by budget. Apparently Clifton wasn’t the only one who held that view. I was there for the first two-and-a-half of the four years he was chief of staff, then I went to Europe to command a tank battalion. Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam. ), Commander, Army Training and Doctrine Command (1977-1981)Is it possible that the riddle of America's military failure in Vietnam has a one-word, one-man answer?Unless and until we understand General William Westmoreland . In this magnificent book we have another of Sorley s powerful, authoritative studies, this time the most stunning portrait of General Westmoreland who he was, how he fought his war, and why. At fifteen he became an Eagle Scout in Troop 1, Spartanburg, the second member of that troop to attain the highest rank in Scouting. Troop 1 was sponsored by the Episcopal Church of the Advent in Spartanburg, where the Westmorelands also attended worship services. He gives Westmoreland due credit where credit is due, especially during the early years of his service. No American general has ever been more vilified than William C. Westmoreland, our senior military commander in Vietnam from 1964 to 1968 and the only American general to lose a war.The . He was the perfect one. After viewing product detail pages, look here to find an easy way to navigate back to pages you are interested in. 10% off 3+ 10% off 3+ 10% off 3+ Description. I think there is a lot to fault the media for in the Vietnam War. The major initiative in the Lyndon Johnson presidency was the Vietnam War. a must read for anyone who tries to understand the Vietnam War." —Thomas E. Ricks Is it possible that the riddle of America's military failure in Vietnam has a one-word, one-man answer? Unless and until we understand Gene. That same year he took part in the 1929 World Scout Jamboree at Arrowe Park in Birkenhead, England. Editor's Note: This review originally appeared in the Marine Corps Gazette, 96, no. How Westmoreland Lost Vietnam An Interview with Lewis Sorley, author of Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam - Part 1 of 4 Tweet Share this Story Like More » President Lyndon B. Johnson (left) at a visit in South Vietnam on Oct. 26, 1966, with Gen. William Q: What do you hope will be the lasting impression of General Westmoreland? Lewis Sorely presents "Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam," as part of the U.S. Army Heritage and Education Center's Perspectives in Military Histor. I could extend that list almost limitlessly. That was my orientation. This is a very well-written and brilliant article. An Eagle Scout at fifteen, First Captain of his West Point . By 1968, the United States had 548,000 troops in Vietnam and had already lost 30,000 Americans there. $7.70. Having been Westmoreland’s West Point classmate, then having served under him in Vietnam and subsequently as his Vice Chief of Staff, General Palmer was an authoritative, sympathetic, and invaluable source of both factual information and sensitive insights. The Communist emphasis on main force combat changed everything in South Vietnam. Westmoreland vs. CBS was a legal battle in 1984 and 1985 that pitted the proud former commander of United States forces in Vietnam against a respected news organization that had been the home of such venerable correspondents as Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow. Robert McNamara once said that if you sent to central casting for a general, they’d send you William C. Westmoreland. Westmoreland, he observed, “had a very keen humorous and affectionate side which he held in reserve and in confidence for his family and those he felt, by extension, were a part of it.”  There were other changes over the years. His desk was maybe 20 paces from the door to his office. In order, from most culpable down. As for dating, he said, “I was playing the field, so to speak.” Little evidence of that remains to posterity. "Westmoreland is a great book, a classic by an author who knows his subject well and tells the story without hesitation." — General Donn A. Starry, U.S. Army (ret. A New York Times Book Review Editors' Choice The story of how Newt Gingrich and his allies tainted American politics, launching an enduring era of brutal partisan warfare When Donald Trump was elected president in 2016, President Obama ... His papers, on deposit at the University of South Carolina, run to many thousands of pages. Sorley's work, which covers Westmoreland's childhood through death, has been touted as very one-sided. Deeply flawed, Westy's strategy was fated to fail. Westmoreland, who on behalf of his class had petitioned the Superintendent to invite Pershing as the speaker, was somewhat disappointed in the outcome, later describing Pershing as “an elderly man” whose address “was not delivered with any fire or enthusiasm.” But at least Pershing had said, gratifyingly, that the Corps marched well. “One of the stories circulating about him [Westmoreland] back then,” said Buckingham, “was about the time when he, as First Captain, led the graduation parade for his class. Unfortunately, as Lewis Sorley – a former member of Westmoreland’s staff and author of the recently released biography Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam – explains, the confidence which Westmoreland’s looks inspired was ill-founded. From A-4's over NVN to F-14's on the test range. Many, many other officers then remarked that we wasted three or four years when we could have been developing them much earlier and they could have taken over far more responsibility for the security of their country much sooner. . In reexamining the evidence, not the popular narrative conceived by those seeking blame for a lost war, Westmoreland and the army in Vietnam seem to have understood their environment more than . I am also keeping your class standing in the same book,” wrote his father.4  So incessant was this barrage that in one month alone, December of 1932, Westmoreland received twenty-six missives from his father, twice including two written on the same day. You may receive a partial or no refund on used, damaged or materially different returns. “I don’t think I ever was, and I certainly didn’t become one as a result of the Vietnam War or later during his tenure as Chief of Staff of the Army.” Another officer, one who worked closely with Westmoreland in Vietnam, described him as “awed by his own magnificence.”  Westmoreland’s own frequent self-characterizations are revealing. In this definitive portrait, Lewis Sorley makes a plausible case that the war could have been won were it not for Westmoreland. Biden beats Ford fo. "As the senior commander in Vietnam, I was aware of the potency of public opinion - and I worried about it."-- William Westmoreland . Here are the vivid realities of strife amid jungle and paddies that killed two million people. “Your Dad never thought women ever amounted to much in the social scale,” a spinster friend of the family wrote to Westmoreland some years later. List Price: $30.00 Details. The progressive buildup of U.S. forces was reversed, and Abrams became responsible for turning the war back to the South Vietnamese.The edited transcriptions in this volume clearly reflect those changes in policy and strategy. An Eagle Scout at fifteen, First Captain of his West Point class, Westmoreland fought in two wars and became Superintendent at West Point. Thrashing around in the deep jungle did nothing to help people who were under the domination of a covert enemy infrastructure that was using terror and coercion to keep them under its foot. Despite a career building upon his experience as an Eagle . The U.S. Army Center of Military History is pleased to present a new pamphlet in its U.S. Army Campaigns of the Vietnam War series. 27 Sorley Westmoreland, The General Who Lost Vietnam. You misuse the c-quotes, which should repeat what is in the text rather than contain new text. A brutally honest true account of a helicopter pilot's journey during the heaviest fighting of the Vietnam War. Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam, Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, 416 pp., $30 In the depths of an unforgiving jungle, a legend is about to be born. Kurlantzick shows how the brutal war lasted nearly two decades, killed one-tenth of Laos's total population, and changed the nature of the CIA forever. All Rights Reserved. 3. Remembered one of his schoolmates, “In spite of the Great Depression, we had a rather isolated, comfortable and secure world in which to grow up.”  Years after his retirement, Westmoreland was a speaker at the hundredth anniversary celebration of the small village where he had grown up. His overall class ranking dropped in each successive year, but at graduation he still stood 112 of 276 in general order of merit, helped by his top military rank but dragged down by economics and government, in which he stood near the bottom of the class. Given a free hand in deciding how to conduct the war within South Vietnam, he chose to pursue an unavailing war of attrition, which failed miserably. ), Commander, Army Training and Doctrine Command (1977–1981)Is it possible that the riddle of America’s military failure in Vietnam has a one-word, one-man answer?Unless and until we understand General William Westmoreland, we will never understand what went wrong in Vietnam. Sorley identifies Westmoreland as the general who lost Vietnam, and there's truth in that. No one in the audience noticed, but some of his classmates did notice and wouldn’t let him forget it.” Classmate Major General Gordon H. Austin later confirmed the accuracy of that account. 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